kaufman 47 yacht

Specifications

Basic information.

• Builder Kaufman
• Category Cutter
• HIN/IMO KDB47114K586
• Condition Used
• Fuel Type Diesel
• Hull Material Fiberglass
• LOA 47'
• Beam 13' 9"
• Max Draft 4' 10"
• Min Draft 4' 10"
• Fuel Tank 40 GAL
• Fresh Water 70 GAL
• Holding Tank 30 GAL
• Displacement 40,000 LBS
• Ballast 10,700 LBS
• Number of Engines 1
• Make Yanmar
• Model 4JH-TE
• Power HP 75.00 HP
• Hours 200.00

"Indigo" 1986 Kaufman 47'

1986 Kaufman 47

1986 Kaufman 47 "indigo"

Drastic price reduction! Owners must sell and are willing to listen to all offers.

Owners' plans have changed. They were in the middle of a complete refit, having completed all the essential systems to a tune of over $80,000 which will be listed further on in the listing. She is in sail away condition and all that is left is her cosmetics to make her truly shine inside and out.

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Accommodations

• The Kaufman 47 cutter rigged cruiser is a quality built monohull with beautiful lines quite similar to a Swan. Mike Kaufman the designer of this pedigree vessel designed a sleek and fast yacht while still maintaining her comfortable and luxurious accommodations below.Starting forward and aft of the chain locker is the Master Stateroom. V-berth with filler, hatch above for light as well as ventilation and abundant storage with a settee, lockers, drawers and hanging locker to starboard. Her lovely teak joinery surrounds you with ceiling strips lining the hull sides as well as shelving. New linen headliner above and numerous Prisms add to her light interior while her teak gives her warmth. She has a dual access head to port that can be accessed from the Master cabin as well as from the Salon. This is a large head with vanity and toilet separate from the shower stall.
• Walking aft we now enter the Main salon; here she has a convertible U-shaped dinette to port that can convert into a double berth when needed. Her centerline table with drop leaves is accessible from both the dinette and the settee on starboard. Outboard of the settee and dinette are shelves and lockers. Aft of the settee on starboard is the aft facing navigation station followed by the second head. This head also has dual access from the salon as well as from the starboard aft cabin. Opposite the head to port is the U-shaped Sea galley with updated Corian counters. A private stateroom follows with hanging locker, storage, dressing settee and double quarter berth. An identical third private stateroom is to starboard with hanging locker, storage and small settee but also has private access to the aft head.
• The interior features beautiful teak joinery and cabinetry throughout as well as teak and holly sole. Some areas may require refinishing of the woodwork but all is solid and only needs cosmetic updating. Numerous hatches and prisms add plenty of light and venitlation as does her updated white headliner. She has 6'4" headroom.

Her galley is a well appointed Sea Galley for offshore cruising. There is an abundance of storage space in cabinets, under counters, dish racks, drawers, tilt-out trash bin and outboard cabinets.Custom Corian counters with fiddles have replaced her original counters 2004

• Large undermount corian sink with hot and cold pressure water. 2004
• Shipmate 3 burner propane stove (gimballed) with oven
• Large Isotherm refrigerator and freezer - 110V and inverter AC to DC 12V system
• Glacier Bay (R-50) refrigerator panels
• Separate filtered drinking water faucet
• Propane shutoff

Sails and rigging

The mast and boom are anodized aluminum with a mast height of 62'. The rig is designed with two sets of spreaders, running backs and is stepped on the keel. Internal halyards as well as an internal jiffy reefing and outhaul in the boom. New standing rigging and running rigging Jan. 2018

• New fully battened Mac Mainsail 2022 with 3 reefs
• 2020 Lazy Jacks
• Extra Mainsail
• 2022 New Staysail
• 135% North jib (good shape)
• No spinnaker but hardware is there
• Spin pole mounted on mast
• Storm trysail
• Profurl roller furling for the headsail
• Detachable staysail stay (chainplate rebuilt)
• Navtec hydraulic backstay
• Manual vang
• 2020 - swedge fittings replaced with Staylock
• 2020 - Genoa sheet blocks replaced
• 2020 - Spreader boots replaced
• 2021 - Wiring in mast replaced and terminal block installed with New steaming light

The mast winches are all Barient and consist of;

• 3 - #27 self-tailing halyard
• 1 - #25 on deck

The cockpit winches consist of;

• 2 - #36 self-tailing primaries
• 2 - #32 self-tailing secondaries
• 1 - #22 self-tailing cockpit winch
• 1 - # 18 centerboard winch

Electronics

• Fusion Am/Fm/Bluetooth stereo with 2 cockpit speakers and 2 speakers in salon
• 2021 New Standard Horizon VHF
• 2021 Garmin 800 AIS transceiver (sends and receives)
• Nema 2000 (backbone replaced 2020)
• New Touch screen Garmin Chartplotter and Radar 18 mile radius
• New 2020 Garmin and GNX multifunction display - Apparent wind, wind speed, depth
• 2018 Garmin Autopilot
• 2021 autopilot hydraulic pump replaced
• Iridiuym satalite transceiver hookup - phone calls, text, email (port locker)
• Navpod at helm 2010
• Cetrek 737 Autopilot with remote
• All mast wireing redone in 2021
• 2021 Irridium satellite receiver and antenna installed

Mechanical and Electrical

Excellent engine access from either quarter cabin as well as the sole of the cockpit.

• 2004 Yanmar 75HP turbo diesel (rebuilt in 2021) reset engine hours meter (200hrs)
• 2021 transmission rebuilt 
• 2021 Turbo replaced
• Xantrex True Charger 40 amp
• 3 Racor filters
• Amptech high performance alternator 200 amps
• 30 amps ships service
• 2 house batteries - 4D AGM - 1 year old - also service the windlass
• 1 Engine start battery AGM - 1 year old
• 2021 - 2 new 175 watt flexable solar panels on bimini
• AIR-X 400 Wind generator, with brake controller
• 10 new LED lights in last year
• 2021 Xantrex battery monitor installed
• 2021 mast wiring replaced and terminal block installed; new steaming light
• 2020 bow light and wiring replaced
• 2022 Rudder bearing repacked
• 2021 steering chain, cable and hardware replaced
• 2022 replaced windlass solenoid
• 2021 Rainman watermaker installed
• Bow and port water tanks have been removed and replaced with Palstimo soft tanks 140L and 200L respectively
• 2022 Bracket under binacle for the steering cable shivs replaced

The rugged keel centerboard system houses the board entirely in the lead casting. The board is currently secured in the up position so her keel draws 4'10". The rudder structure was designed to stand by itself, without the skeg in the event the skeg is broken away. The shroud chainplates and bolt pattern spread the load over the chainplate bulkhead, which in turn spreads loads well out aft along the hull skin through two widely spaced bulkheads.Indigo was originally a fresh water boat for much of her life in Wisconsin

• Complete barrier coat job completed over the winter of 2004
• 2021 bnilge cleaned, epoxy primer and painted
• 2021 Headliner replaced
• 2021 Aft berth port lights removed, water damage repaired
• 2021 cockpit shower replaced
• 2021 All 13 seacocks and thru hulls replaced
• 2021 Bonding wire replaced
• 2021 Rudder port repacked

Deck Equipment

Indigo originally had teak decks, they have been removed and now is fiberglass with non-skid.2022 All new grey canvas - Bimini, dodger, attachment between dodger and bimini, pedestal cover, mainsail cover

• 2019 Lewmar windlass w/remote
• 2019 Rocna 33kg anchor
• 200' 3/8" high test anchor chain
• 2019 - 6 New lean hatches
• 12 deck prisms
• Aluminum toe rail
• Stainless steel bow and stern pulpit with side stanchions and double life lines
• Over sized mooring and spring cleats
• Shurflow Blaster 3.4 saltwater washdown hose and pump
• Manual bilge pump
• Cockpit shower with hot and cold water
• Boarding ladder port and starboard
• Large chain locker with deck access
• Spare spade anchor with 250' nylon rode
• Shore power inlet
• Emergency tiller
• Fire extinquishers
• 2021 Revere life raft
• 2021 West Marine 10' dinghy
• 2021 4 HP Torquido electric outboard for dinghy
• 6 new type 5 inflatable life vests
• 6 type 1 life vests

The company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change or withdrawal without notice.

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Kaufman 47 is a 47 ′ 0 ″ / 14.3 m monohull sailboat designed by F. Michael Kaufman and built by Kha Shing Enterprise Co. Ltd. between 1986 and 1988.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Keel/CB optional. BU=4.83’

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Bluewater Sailboat – Kaufman 47

The Bluewater Sailboat Kaufman 49 cutter rig is a well-built monohull with elegant lines reminiscent of a Swan.

It has all of the qualities you’d expect from a high-quality, high-performance monohull. It is provided with all of the amenities of a luxury monohull. The Kaufman is an easy pick with its traditional architecture and plenty of conveniences. A Kaufman sailboat is a wonderful choice whether you’re planning a long-term journey or just want to spend a couple of days in the bay.

Mike Kaufman’s hull design is a hybrid of a Beneteau 456 and a Hylas 49.

A Kaufman Bluewater sailboat is an excellent purchase for a sailing lover. The 47′ hull is frequently the ideal size for a family. It has a pronounced fin keel. The rigging and stern rail are both in excellent shape. The keel is strong, and the cabin is roomy. It boasts a lot of storage, a large l-shaped couch, and a roomy rigging system. The Kaufman’s interior features plenty of storage and a comfy Viking-style arrangement.

Performance

The Kaufman 47 is a high-performance bluewater cruiser. She is a real thoroughbred, designed by Kaufman and Ladd and built by Kha Shing. Her moderate underbody is highlighted by a lengthy keel section and a full skeg hanging rudder. She has three spacious private staterooms, two heads (one with a separate shower), a U-shaped Sailboats Galley , and a spacious salon. The teak inside is exquisitely polished.

It is apparently comfortable and speedy for their day and is similarly built to Swan 47. One of the most typical performance cruisers of the day. It’s an excellent go-anywhere offshore cruising boat. On average 150 miles a day through it all are covered. 

The low-slung, strong appearance of Kaufman and Ladd designs is often admired. Other examples are the Skye 51 and the Albin Nimbus. The Kaufman 47 is finely balanced, making it easy to sail on autopilot, and it also sails well with just a headsail, giving it an easy way to cross oceans. The hull has taken a beating, including a punch on the chin from a ferocious Italian tornado.

Quick Notes

The Kaufman 49 is the same boat as the Kaufman 48, but with a reverse transom. And there’s no disputing that the S&S Swan 47 influenced the Kaufman 47. They’re difficult to tell apart when they’re side by side. The cockpit, for example, is significantly more comfortable in the Kaufman.

If you are interested in learning more about the specifications and details of a sailboat, we recommend visiting the page Bluewater Sailboat data . This page provides comprehensive information and is an excellent resource for anyone seeking detailed information about 1000+ sailboats.

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47' kaufman cutter cruisers.

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The Kaufman 47 cutter rig is a quality built monohull with beautiful lines quite similar to a Swan.  The designer of this pedigree yacht, Mike Kaufman, made this boat sleek to be fast while still maintaining comfortable and luxurious accommodations below.  

Upgrades in April 2019 include Teak Decks removed and Now Non-Skid Fiberglass New Deck Hatches New Main Sail New Bimini New Rocna Anchor New Windlass w/wireless remote New Cockpit Cushions Upgrades in 2017 and 2018 include ââ?¬Â¢ New Standing Rigging ââ?¬Â¢ New Running Rigging ââ?¬Â¢ New Garmin Auto Pilot system ââ?¬Â¢ New Anemometer atop mast  ââ?¬Â¢ New wind speed, depth, speed on Garmin display at helm ââ?¬Â¢ New Fusion Stereo and cockpit speakers with helm control ââ?¬Â¢ New VHF Radio and Handset at helm ââ?¬Â¢ New Start and House Batteries  ââ?¬Â¢ New cockpit dining table with extension, cupholders ââ?¬Â¢ New V-Box mounting, alignment and drive shaft ââ?¬Â¢ Reconditioned Jib and new sacrificial trim ââ?¬Â¢ Fresh Bottom Job January 2018 PREVIOUS IMPROVEMENTS ââ?¬Â¢ New white Awlgrip topside in 2010 ââ?¬Â¢ NavPod w/Garmin 4212 w/XM radio weather at helm ââ?¬Â¢ New Yanmar 75 hp engine installed in 2004 ââ?¬Â¢ New salon upholstery in 2014 ââ?¬Â¢ Stainless steel deck hatches ââ?¬Â¢ Electric Rartan head   ââ?¬Â¢ The Frigoboat 12 volt refrigeration system reconstructed with new State of the Art Glacier Bay (R-50) insulation ââ?¬Â¢ Complete barrier coat in winter of 03/04

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Builder:  Kaufman

Designer: Mike Kaufman

LOA: 49 feet

LWL: 40.17 feet

Beam: 13.75 feet

Displacement: 28,900 pounds

Bridge Clearance: 62 feet

Ballast 10,700 pounds

Draft:  4'10" / 8'  Centerboard presently secured in up position

Engine(s):  Yanmar

Model: 4JH-TE (new in 2005)

Hours: approx 800

Cruising Speed: 8.63 mph

Max Speed: 9.78 mph

Fuel:  80 Gallons (aluminum) in two tanks with fuel management system and transfer pump

Water: 200 Gallon (stainless) in three (3) tanks

Holding: Approx 30 gallon (polypropylene) in two (2) tanks

Hot Water Heater: 6 gallon

The interior features 3 private staterooms and 2 heads with showers. V-berth forward with small centerline settee. Aft on port is a head, vanity and stall shower with access from forward cabin or main salon. To starboard is a dressing settee, storage and hanging locker. Continuing aft to the salon with convertible U-shaped settee berth and drop-leaf table accessible from both settees. There is built-in storage above both settee berths. The U-shaped galley is immediately aft on port. A private stateroom follows with hanging locker, storage, dressing settee and double quarter berth. Opposite the galley is a second head, vanity and shower. Immediately aft is a private double stateroom with hanging locker, storage and small settee. The interior features beautiful teak woodwork with high gloss varnish, teak and holly cabin sole and custom upholstery. 

New Salon upholstery 2014  

4 reading lights, LCD bulbs 

Clock/barometer 

3 hatches 

3 x 110 volt outlets 

4 overhead lights 

2 prisms 

The galley has been recently upgraded with Corian counter tops, sink and custom faucet. The refrigeration and freezer box were rebuilt with the state of the art Glacier Bay insulation panels (R-50) and two Frigoboat 12 volt compressors with keel coolers. 

Frigoboat freezer and refrigerator 12 volt New 2004  

Glacier Bay (R-50) refrigerator panels 

Corian counter tops New 2004  

Corian seamless sink New 2004  

Kitchen faucet New 2004  

Separate filtered drinking water faucet 

Shipmate propane three burner stove with oven 

Propane shutoff 

Solar vent 

Prism 

The master stateroom on Hobo is the forward cabin with a large V berth and private head with shower. Ample storage is located in one hanging locker and sets of drawers on the starboard side. There is a small settee in the cabin adding to the warm ambiance of the vessel. New upholstery 2005  

Reading light  

Overhead light  

Prism  

Hatch  

The forward head is large and features a separate stall shower, vanity and sink forward and storage outboard in two lockers 

Manual head with holding tank 

Macerator pump 

1 hatch 

Overhead light 

110 v outlet

The two aft quarter cabins are ideal for offshore sailing. Splitting the berth cushions with lee cloths, the bunks become proper sea berths for two, and the occupants are near the cockpit for quick access to the cockpit. Both aft cabins are spacious and offer large areas to change clothes and many storage areas for gear. Each cabin contains: 

3 opening ports 

110 v. outlet 

Reading light 

Sliding pocket door 

This head is located opposite the galley and used as a day head and hanging locker for foul weather gear. Storage is available in two outboard lockers with doors. The shower in this head is integrated with shower pan below.  

Raritan electric head New 2007  

Shower sump 12 volt pump  

110 v outlet  

Solar vent  

The navigation station is conveniently located to starboard, facing aft and shares the aft end of the settee for seating. There are numerous drawers and cabinets along with the navigation table with storage below.  New Garmin Autopilot control system  (2017)

Garmin 4212 Chart plotter with XM weather module

Garmin Depth/Sonar/Wind (new in 2017)

NavPod at helm New 2010  

Garmin radar, 18 miles radius 

New VHF radio with RAM mike at helm/cockpit New 2017

New Anemometer atop mast - Wind speed and direction   New 2017

Depth Meter New 2017

 Glomex Omnidirectional TV antenna  New 2010  

Engine mounted alternator - 220 amp High Output 

Yanmar engine start battery Alternator - Yanmar 50 AMP 

Air X wind generator New 2007  

Prosine 40 amp battery charger New 2008  

2 x 4D AGM batteries 200 amp hrs each New 2017  

Engine start battery New 2017

Emergency battery parallel start switch 

Master 12 volt switches 

Master AC and DC voltage panel 

Battery charger 

Tri-color masthead light 

Spreader lights 

anchor light and running lights 

50' shore power cord 

2004 Yanmar 75 hp turbo diesel ââ?¬â?? approx 800 hours  

Engine mounted alternator 

Dual manifold Racor fuel filter 

6 gallon stainless steel hot water heater

Maxprop 3 blade 

Macerator pump forward head 

Engine compartment painted 

The rugged keel centerboard system houses the board entirely in the lead casting. The board is currently secured in the up posistion so keel draws 4'10". The rudder structure was designed to stand by itself, without the skeg in the event the skeg is broken away. The shroud chainplates and bolt pattern spread the load over the chainplate bulkhead, which in turn spreads loads well out aft along the hull skin through two widely spaced bulkheads.

New White Awlgrip topside paint 2010  

Compete barrier coat job completed over the winter of 2004  

Bottom antifouling paint January 2018

The deck on Hobo is fiberglassed with non-skid 

Lewmar Windlass w/remote  New 2019  

Rocna 33kg anchor  New 2019

200' 3/8" high test anchor chain

6 New Lexan hatches  New 2019  

Twelve (12) deck prisms

Black aluminum toe rail 

Over sized mooring and spring cleats 

Merriman Yacht Specialties pedestal 

Shurflow Blaster 3.4 Saltwater washdown hose and pump

Manual bilge pump 

Cockpit shower, hot and cold 

Swim ladder

Large chain locker with deck access 

Spare Spade anchor with 250' nylon rode 

Shore power inlet

Cable TV inlet 

The mast and boom on Hobo are anodized aluminum with a mast height of 62'. The rig is designed with two spreaders and running backstays, internal halyards. The boom is also designed with internal jiffy reefing and outhaul.

New Standing and Running Rigging Jan 2018

New Mainsail fully battened New 2019  

North Sails 115% jib New 2006  

Staysail 

Asymmetrical spinnaker (Blue, Red, Green) 

Storm jib 

Storm trysail 

Hood roller furling unit 

Detachable staysail stay 

Navtec hydraulic backstay 

Manual vang 

Barient Winches  

1 x #22 

3 x #27 ST - halyard 

1 x #25 on deck 

Primary # 36 ST 

Secondary # 32 ST 

Cockpit #22 ST 

Centerboard winch #18 

Stainless steel stanchions with double lifelines 

Emergency tiller 

2 fire extinguishers 

Flares 

Kevin Welsh / Edwards Yacht Sales / 321.693.1642 / [email protected] MULTI-YEAR TOP PRODUCER

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The Kaufman 47 is a 47.0ft cutter designed by M. Kaufmann and built in fiberglass by Kha Shing Enterprise Co. Ltd. between 1986 and 1988.

The Kaufman 47 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a bluewater cruising boat. The fuel capacity is good. There is an excellent water supply range.

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I'm currently looking at a Kaufman 47 and was wondering if anyone had any information on them. There is limited knowledge on them on the Internet and from forums. I know they are similar to Swan 47s and has the same shape or appears to me as the Skye 51. We own a marina in New Orleans, and had a Skye 51 up earlier this summer. Very solid boats and nicely designed. But if anyone could shed any info or sailing experience on one that would be much appreciated. -sent from sea via corked bottle  

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I believe that the Kaufman 47 was designed by Mike Kaufman. Mike is an Annapolis area (actually Severna Park) based naval architect and marine engineer who was formerly a partner in Kaufman and Ladd. People often confuse him with fellow yacht designer Scott Kaufman who is formerly of S&S if I remember right. The confusion is so rampant that even SailBoat Data has most of Mike Kaufman's boats ascribed to Scott Kaufman. In any event, my first suggestion is to contact Mike Kaufman directly and see what light he can shed. I personally have little or no first hand experience with the Kaufman 47. I have seen a CT47 which I believe was a similar design. I believe that the Skye 51 was a Kaufman and Ladd design. There are definite similarlities between these three. This is also a similar design to the K&L Nimbus 42 as well. From everything that I ever heard about the Nimbus and Skye, these were both really nice boats. They were reportedly comfortable and fast for their day, robustly constructed. Looking back from 2013, I personally am not a fan of their rig proportions, but these purposeful adaptaions of IOR 2 hull forms and rigs was leading edge stuff back then. In many ways these designs were very typical of performance cruisers of their era. Their underbody is not all that different than something like a Valiant 40 of a slightly earlier era. (Perhaps Bob Perry might weigh in here since he was having boats built in Taiwan in that era and there were few secrets in the Taiwan yards during that period.) You occasionally see suggestions that these were Swan knock offs, but knowing both Mike Kaufman and Rob Ladd, both are creative designers and it would seem unlikely that they would be directly cribbing anyone. I am sorry that I cannot be more helpful. Respectfully, Jeff  

Jeff_H said: ..... You occasionally see suggestions that these were Swan knock offs, but knowing both Mike Kaufman and Rob Ladd, both are creative designers and it would seem unlikely that they would be directly cribbing anyone. . Click to expand...

I have been aboard two of the ct47's one cutter one a ketch. These had teak decks the cutter had been removed and the boat gone through. The ketch had not and was is rotting away. If the boat you are looking at had/has teak decks beware. I liked the ketch layout inside but it was a total rebuild project. I couldn't find much info on them either. What's the name of the boat I may have been on it. You can pm me if you wish.  

" cribbing"? I don't think so. To their credit Swans pretty much became a generic style. My own Golden Wave 42 built by Cheoy Lee is what I would call a Swan style design. I knew the builders of both the Skye and the CT models. As I recall Mao Ta built the Skye. I could be wrong. Never much liked that guy. He did some funny business with me on a boat that has my name on it but is not my design. I didn't laugh. I have a buddy who owned a CT K&L ketch for many years. He loved that boat. His had a custom lead keel.  

Boy: Yep I could be wrong. I pay mariginal attention to other people's design efforts. Unless they are noteworthy. This lead keel was built and installed at the yard. How do I know that? I hung out in Taiwan quite a bit. Truth is I loved it there. I did not bite my fingernails when I was in Taiwan. I pulled into the Ta Chaio yard after a nice lunch and ther was a bit of a commotion going on. It involved the lead keel they were pouring for my buddies boat. It seems the wood mould they had constructed for the lead keel had broken during the pour and lead had spilled out all over the parking lot. Big loss of face for the yard. Face is not a joke with the Chinese. I knew enough to wonder off to the CT65 plug project that I was involved with at the time. I had been around keel pours before. They are challenging.  

I didn't get out west looking so I don't know that boat. Unlike Jeff I liked my cutter rigs. Yes can be a bit of a challenge to get a big genny through the slot in light air. It will blow right by in a breeze. When the wind comes up more put the gen away and use the stay sail and full main. More wind start reefing the main. Much easier than changing out head sails. For real light air I put up a drifter on its own rope luff. I will most likely put a stay sail on my ketch.  

Bob, I wonder if all of the K47's were lead keeled or if he had his special ordered at the yard? I'll have to look where I saw the iron keel at. I think it was an old Kaufman brochure... Yea, I know the Chinese/Japanese cultures are very deeply rooted in honor/face/respect, to lose those is a very big deal to them in all aspects of life. I can imagine a keel pour is challenging, that is a lot of weight. ctl, alright thanks.. That's what my understanding of a cutter rig was, the ease of reduction of sail without having to actually change a head sail immediately. Jeff, I'd still like to know your thoughts on adding roach to the main would help with its proportion to the head sail? Add roach and a few battens?  

Just read over the brochure again.. I'm pretty sure the keel is lead. The centerboard version has lead keel so I imagine the full keel I'm looking at has a lead as well.  

I put large roach on my cutter main it work out great. Make sure the sail maker puts the battens in from the luff where the roach hits the stay. I even had one of my stay sails built with battens for added area. My had my ketch main and mizzen built with a lot of roach. I have a pic of the ketch on my profile page.  

Oh alright, thanks for the information. I saw the picture, and you do have a bit of roach on both. I see they are both fully battened as well.  

There is a new book just out "Sailing A Serious Ocean" by John Kretschmer. His boat is a Kaufman 47, he has been all over the world with it, ( and also a very good author ).  

LazylighningII said: Hi The Lazy Lightning II is a Kaufman 47' It is a great go anywhere offshore cruising boat. I have had this one since 2001 and have been very happy with it(NO Teak Decks). Mine has been to Austraila. before I got it. They sail very well. I saw the boat you are looking at, it sounds as if it needs lotts of TLC(your getting it at scrap value or less). Feel free to Message me. Jamie Click to expand...

Hi The Lazy Lightning II is a Kaufman 47' It is a great go anywhere offshore cruising boat. I have had this one since 2001 and have been very happy with it(NO Teak Decks). Mine has been to Austraila. before I got it. They sail very well. I saw the boat you are looking at, it sounds as if it needs lotts of TLC(your getting it at scrap value or less). Feel free to Message me. Jamie  

Thanks for the detailed right up, Jeff. An I appreciate the clarification of depowering, I understood it and I think I had the terminology incorrect, but definitely gave me more knowledge. With all this said, would the cutter sail similar to a sloop if the jibstay was removed and only left with the Genoa to tack? Would you lose performance or speed with the absence of the jib? Also, since the genoa is so large, could you not get it cut similar to a sloop jib in order to point higher? I am asking these questions because though I have raced mostly in the last 5 years I am still learning the technical aspects of sailing, which can be a lifetime of information. I appreciate the advice and I am reading as much as I can so please don't think I'm just asking to be spoon fed. With the boat, if I get it, I would probably be cruising it more than racing. And if I raced it it would be long distance rates since the CNC34 I race on we use for can and Lake races. I have been wanting to do Isla Mujeres for some time but the cnc is not up to it. Ronnie -sent from sea via corked bottle  

Lazylightning, sent you a pm.. Thought I'd let you know on here because I don't know how the notifications work on here. -sent from sea via corked bottle  

I have been looking at that boat, looks great, but needs some work. The instruments look old and the decks need to be finished. Those pathfinders have timing belts, and if they go cause real bad problems. I have not called, but I wonder if that is why it's not running. There is a 85HP marine Pathfinder on eBay for $4,500 that's almost new that looks like a good fit.  

Awesome! Keep us posted. If you're still looking for more info, try John Kretschmer. He owns a Kaufman 47 and gives a brief write-up here . He also has his phone/email on his website if you want to contact him directly.  

John Kretschmer, the sailing writer, sails a 1987 Kaufman 47 and loves it. (He wrote Used Boat Notebook, Flirting with Mermaids, At The Mercy of the Sea, etc.) He has done numerous trans-Atlantics, the Med, the Caribbean and many other trips with the boat. He also has a new book called Sailing a Serious Ocean that talks a lot about his boat. His web site is at yayablues-dot-com.  

kwaltersmi said: Awesome! Keep us posted. If you're still looking for more info, try John Kretschmer. He owns a Kaufman 47 and gives a brief write-up here . He also has his phone/email on his website if you want to contact him directly. Click to expand...

I tried emailing Mike Kaufman from his website this morning, but haven't gotten anything back yet. I'll give it a few days and may try to ring the office. I just want to possibly get some sail information, maybe get a blueprint or something on the boat. Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk  

Hey, Any updates or pictures as to how your Kaufman 47 project is coming along.  

Yea man! She's looking pretty now, new seacocks, engine is installed, new shaft, new wheel, pedestal should be in the mail soon.. Redid the engine room and lazerette , changed valves on water tanks, refit the fuel tank lids and added mechanical level indicators.. A few other things, closed up some holes on the hull and added one for a transducer.. Cleaned up the deck partner and rebedded the aluminum ring that sits on deck where the mast goes through.. New portlights on the side. Other little things, thanks for asking! Couldn't get her in the water last time I was home and I'm offshore now. But hoping in Dec she'll finally see water after being parched for almost a year! Also, she's renamed now, Redemption, and the lettering was but one a few days after I got back and that's super exciting because it came out great!  

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beatiful! whats your plans for the decks boatyard? I loved redoing mine on my h28 a long time ago she is looking awesome! congrats again on the boat and NICE NAME! ps. is your plan to have it berthed in new orleans or always florida?  

krisscross said: That is a whale of a boat. What is it, 8 ft draft? Click to expand...

weephee said: Thanks for the update. Looks awesome. I hope to be down that way in the near future. Would love to see her. Keep us up to date Larry Click to expand...

That is a whale of a boat. What is it, 8 ft draft?  

Thanks for the update. Looks awesome. I hope to be down that way in the near future. Would love to see her. Keep us up to date Larry  

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Mercury Marine to lay off nearly 300 workers at Fond du Lac headquarters

by Marlo Lundak & Brian Kerhin, FOX 11 News

FOND DU LAC (WLUK) -- Mercury Marine is laying off nearly 300 workers in Fond du Lac and making workforce "adjustments" at other facilities.

The boat engine builder says the layoffs are a result of a decrease in boat sales.

“I think when you look at the overall economy -- not only the state of Wisconsin, but throughout the nation right now, a lot of people are struggling with increased health insurance costs, rent for example, mortgage payments, and I think people are just prioritizing now what they’re spending their money on," said Fond du Lac County Executive Sam Kaufman.

"Obviously boats, engines, are one of those items that are not a priority. So, as I watch Mercury now over the last year, I’ve seen somewhat of a trend where their product is now being stockpiled, they have a lot of inventory to sell off of. And to me this was a turn that did not shock," Kaufman added.

Mercury Marine is the largest employer in Fond du Lac. Although company officials say the nearly 300 layoffs is less than 10% of their 3,500 total employees -- for those families, it's anything but a small impact.

"Any family that I know that's gone through a situation like this before, it's a difficult time for the family because now the panic sets in. How are we going to pay next month's bills? How are we going to do things for our kids? How about the summer vacations that they're going to try to plan?" Kaufman said.

FOX 11 spoke with a former Mercury Marine employee, who declined to go on camera. She said layoffs happen every few years as the economy fluctuates. In fact, she herself was laid off from Mercury Marine in 2009.

Now, as an employee at a boat service center in town, she too can tell that boat sales are way down. She says they’re almost exclusively helping customers fix up old boats so they don’t have to buy new ones.

Mercury Marine has announced a reduction in workforce of close to 300 employees at its Fond du Lac global headquarters, which will take place now through July, as well as some adjustments to overall operations in Wisconsin, St. Cloud, Florida, and Juarez, Mexico. These actions were taken due to softening of consumer demand in some of our markets mainly as a result of continued high interest rates and near-term reductions in boat production by Mercury’s boat builder partners. Mercury Marine's industry-leading products continue to gain market share around the world but at this time this is not sufficient to fully offset the overall market headwinds. Mercury remains one of the largest employers in the Fox Valley, and in the state of Wisconsin, with more than 3,500 full-time employees in Fond du Lac, and accounts for $5B in annual economic impact to the Fond du Lac Community,” a statement from the company says.

The company confirmed the legitimacy of a memo, dated Thursday, provided to FOX 11 by an employee, which said the 252 layoffs at Plant 15 are effective July 26.

Mercury Marine noted other companies in the sector have also laid off workers. For example, BRP in Sturtevant, laid off nearly 300 workers last month . According to media reports, Minnesota-based Alumnacraft and Missouri-based Tracker have also laid off workers.

Kaufman says the county has programs to help those who may be now looking for new work. He also says there are several positions within the county government that need to be filled.

Mercury Marine has an economic impact that reaches into the billions for the local economy.

"I'm just glad it's not worse. They're our biggest employer, we very much appreciate them being here and all their investment in the county, but being that they employ 3,400 people and they've laid off 250, it's unfortunate but again I'm glad were not talking a thousand people," Kaufman said.

Mercury Marine officials said they were not available for an on-camera interview. FOX 11 also reached out to the local labor union, but did not receive a response.

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