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Migration user jan 23, 2013 11:14 am, 1.  how to ghost a disk in a raid card.

I use Ghost 11.5.1 (WinPE) bootable disk to boot up but it cannot find the disk in the raid card that just setup raid 1 to mirror 2 disks at all. I search and read a lot from Symantec but I cannot find how to integrate the raid driver with Ghost bootup image. 

Anyone kwow the steps? Thanks a lot.

2.  RE: How to Ghost a disk in a raid card?

You need to add the raid card drivers via Ghost Boot Wizard and create the boot package. Boot the machine using this boot package and check whether you are able to see the disks.

3.  RE: How to Ghost a disk in a raid card?

Symantec Ghost supports all imaging operations for RAID disks using Ghost32 if the RAID disk complies with all of the following conditions:

■ The source or destination disk is a hardware RAID array disk.

■ The disk is accessible from the host operating system.

The pre-OS must be Windows Preinstallation Environment (WinPE).

RAID software-level drives are not supported. The ability to successfully back up other types of RAID-array configurations depends on the specific computer model, driver controller, hard drive, and RAID implementation.

4.  RE: How to Ghost a disk in a raid card?

Keep in mind when you are looking for the raid drivers to add to the ghost boot wizard they need to be VISTA 32 bit.

http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH110134

• Open the Ghost Boot Wizard.
• Select Windows PE
• Click Edit .
• If you are using the console, be sure to change the PreOS to the new copy. To do this, right click on your client machine in the console (inside the machine group where it resides), and click Properties . Click on the Client tab, and change the Virtual Partition PreOS drop-down menu to the copyed Windows PE package you created. You do not need to change any other settings, as the Network Settings when using Virtual Partition only applies to PCDOS and PCDOS drivers.
• Depending on the type of driver that you would like to add, go to the "Network Drivers" or the "Storage Drivers" section.
• If it is already supplied, check the box to include that driver. Note : If using the WinPE version, Symantec suggests that any drivers that are not needed be disabled so that the space requirement is not exceeded.
• Click Add New Driver
• Click Browse and navigate to the root location of the NIC or Storage driver that you would like to add.
• Create a "Friendly Name". This is the name that you will use when selecting the driver from Ghost.
• Check the Applicable Operating System. For Windows PE drivers, this should be VISTA only.
• Check the box for the driver that you have just added.

5.  RE: How to Ghost a disk in a raid card?

We really need support for PE 3 at least, but 4.0 would be better.  PE 2 is getting very long in the tooth.

6.  RE: How to Ghost a disk in a raid card?

The problem with PE4 is that there are unlikely to be Win 8 drivers for much of the existing hardware out there. There is nothing stopping you creating a PE3 or PE4 boot environment yourself - you just have to learn how to add drivers manually rather than through Ghost Boot Wizard.

7.  RE: How to Ghost a disk in a raid card?

Correct.  This is one of the reasons why I buy Ghost.  I have done command line builds of Win PE and it is not fun.  PE4 should support drivers from VISTA through Win 8.  This includes Windows Server 2012.  The converse is not always true though.  PE2 will not always support drivers designed for Windows 7, 8 or Server 2012.

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Creating a GHOST image of RAID-0 Drives

• Thread starter leesiulung
• Start date Feb 22, 2007
• Tags Error Message Hard Drives Homebuilt Systems

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• Feb 22, 2007

I'm setting up a RAID-0 configuration for my OS (Windows XP Pro) drive. I would like to keep an image of it so I do not have to redo a lot of the work when I would like to do a clean install. Do anyone have any experience using Symantec Ghost to create an image of RAID-0. I will be using the following RAID-0 on nForce 590 motherboard with two drives PATA drive (to store the image) Symantec Ghost 2002 Any suggestions? I was thinking of setup in the RAID-0 and install Windows with configuration. Then remove RAID in BIOS and GHOST each disk individually. Then re-enable RAID in BIOS...  

I've heard all kinds of good and crazy bad stuff about Ghost, I use PowerQuest DriveImage 7 myself. Don't be confused, this is a very old product and Norton did buy it. I just have very little faith in Norton's ability to use it to improve Ghost. PowerQuest DriveImage boot program works like XP because it's based on Windows PE: If your drives are in RAID mode, you simply use the RAID driver floppy at the "F6" prompt. And it works just as it would a single drive. The only three problems I've had with DriveImage 7 is that 1.) USB flash drives confuse it and must be unplugged 2.) It can't shrink a partition, so the new drive must be as larger or larger than the original partition was 3.) It doesn't seem to write the boot information correctly on a clean drive. Number 3 has been an easy fix for me: I simply instal Windows XP to the drive and when it reboots the first time, switch to the DriveImage restoration. That does add around 10 minutes to the time it takes to copy a partition, but what the heck I can live with that.  

darkangelism

you cant turn off a raid 0 once it has been created as the data is on both drives. Ghost has some issues with raid, doesnt work everytime. Acronis true image workstation: http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/ATICW/ supports raid.  

I never said anything about turning off RAID 0. I've rebuilt Windows XP to new RAID 0 drives after the original array failed, using PowerQuest Drive Image 7. It works fine if you take care of the three annoyances I mentioned.  

you cant turn off a raid 0 once it has been created as the data is on both drives. Click to expand...

... I've rebuilt Windows XP to new RAID 0 drives after the original array failed, using PowerQuest Drive Image 7. .... Click to expand...

... Acronis true image workstation: http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/ATICW/ supports raid. .... Click to expand...

... Ghost has some issues with raid, doesnt work everytime. .... Click to expand...

crash, lee said turn off raid 0 not you. lee, ,you may be able to do that, you can try it, but from what i have seen and heard ghost doesnt play nice with raid.  

darkangelism, Does Acronis TrueImage require installation for it to work with RAIDs? One of the things I like about Symantec Ghost is it does not require an installation in Windows once you have the BootCD created. You can re-use the BootCD as it boots into DOS. It can create and restore the image without leaving any traces of the Ghost software on the original image or the restored drive. Acronis Workstation 9.1 is a whopping $80. 8O 8O 8O  

After using Ghost, altiris, powerquest, and other imaging software I would recommend Acronis true image. Not only can you boot to a cd and make an image, you can also install the software and create images almost like backups. A full image, and differential images. I've just recently used acronis enterprise on raid 5 systems, but I don't know about the home version if it will do a boot level on raid. But you can always install into windows and run that way.  

SomeJoe7777

I use Norton Ghost on RAID arrays all the time. It works fine. As long as the RAID controller supports Extended INT 13h extensions, Ghost will work with the drive just fine (and most controllers do). You do not need to disable the RAID or make the drives individual (I wouldn't recommend that anyway, the RAID controller could easily delete your data on the drives when you re-enable it). Just make the RAID, install Windows, and then run Ghost from the CD or a boot disk, and image the array.  

crash, lee said turn off raid 0 not you. Click to expand...

yeah i never said trurimage wouldnt work, i dont know if it will or not...i just have seen issues with ghost...but if lee already has it then he should try that first.  

I use Norton Ghost on RAID arrays all the time. It works fine. ..... Click to expand...

I use Norton Ghost 2003. If the drives are attached to a RAID controller, it makes no difference whether the drives are SATA, IDE, or SCSI. The only thing that matters is that the controller supports Extended INT 13h extensions. If you're trying to Ghost a single drive on a SATA controller, the only thing I've had to do in certain instances is turn off AHCI in the BIOS and run the SATA drive in legacy IDE mode. Nothing needs a driver. The whole point of Extended INT13h support is that DOS programs can access the drive through the BIOS-provided INT13h interface. This is how Ghost, Partition Magic, and most other DOS programs that manipulate hard disks do it. Acronis True Image does not boot to DOS - it runs Acronis' version of Linux and uses Linux drivers to access all your hardware.  

I am not sure what version those reporting difficulty with Ghost used, but I had no problem using version 9 to back up my raid 0 array (which I recently moved over to a single Raptor). Fry's has a great deal on a Norton Software bundle that includes Internet Security 07, Partition Magic 8 (another useful utility) and Ghost 10 for free after $70 in rebates ($50 and $20): http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5018815?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Note: for the second $20 rebate you have to be able to show proof of ownership of another program, but it is extremely expansive in what kind of program you can use: "Enclose proof of previous ownership of a stand-alone or pre-loaded version of any Norton or Symantec software or another company’s antivirus, firewall, antispam, antispyware, utility, or back up software product." I have never heard of someone trying to back up each raid drive separately and other than cutting the time to reimage in half, which would seem to be offset by the time and hassle involved in backing them up individually, I do not see what the benefit is.  

• Feb 23, 2007

... Nothing needs a driver. The whole point of Extended INT13h support is that DOS programs can access the drive through the BIOS-provided INT13h interface. This is how Ghost, Partition Magic, and most other DOS programs that manipulate hard disks do it. .... Click to expand...

... I have never heard of someone trying to back up each raid drive separately and other than cutting the time to reimage in half, which would seem to be offset by the time and hassle involved in backing them up individually, I do not see what the benefit is. Click to expand...

• Feb 24, 2007

Will my nForce 590 motherboard support this? How can I find out? .... Also, with the INT13h support will GHOST see the RAID array as one drive? Assuming it is configured like that. Click to expand...

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