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timvail Senior Member

We have just recently sold our sea ray and are looking to purchase between 35 to 40 foot MY. We have been looking at carvers as we like the layout. We have recently heard some discouraging news regarding the older ones. Any comments or suggestions would be most helpful.\tks tim

wscott52 Senior Member

I don't know specifics, someone here will, but the Carvers I've been on didn't seem very well built. I think Sea Ray is generally a better built boat. I did have a marine surveyor once, after ragging on Carvers, tell me Silvertons were surprisingly well built boats.

CaptTom Senior Member

My family and I had a 1987 34 Silverton Convertible for 17 years. Based in Long Island, NY, we cruised all over the south shore, around Manhattan, tons of offshore ocean fishing, even up the Hudson to Albany. Nice, solid hull, all glass at least below the waterline. Drilled a hole in the bottom for a transducer and the plug had no wood or coring. Had it in 6+ footers a few times. It's not always the build of the boat that makes an experience good or bad but the experience and knowledge behind the wheel. Anyway, sleeps 4 comfy, 6 is possible, you'll have more options with kids (i.e. took the dinette table down and had my infant son sleep on the dinette floor on blankets, worked well. 40-fotters around the late 1980's had same type of layout but much more room, which may suite you.

RER Senior Member

Not sure what you mean by 'older' ...some people think a 2002 model is old. With an older boat, and I'll assume you mean at least 10 years old, I don't get too hung up on model year or brand. If it's 10 years old or 15 years old what matters to me is the care the boat has received and the condition that it's in. When I buy an older boat I look at it like I'm paying the seller for care and upkeep during the period of time he's owned it. I value a knowledgeable owner/seller as much or more than a particular brand.

mbgator New Member

Older Carver's Last summer we purchased a '85 Carver Riviera. 28' with twin crusaders. Very well maintained. We are the 3rd owner, first had it for 17 years and loved the boat dearly. The 2nd owner just kept it at the marina and didn't use it. After a thorough survey, weeks of cleaning - we are very proud of her. Solid boat for a 28 footer.

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By older we mean something late '80s. Specifically we had been looking at 3607's or 3807's. And in the mid '90's, perhaps the 355. We'd always thought Carvers to be solid, well made boats....there are certainly a number of them around here, and are popular, but after doing a little research, have heard a number of sources tell us that they are not as solid as they appear. mbgator: contrats on your Riviera! Just a few years ago that was our "dream boat". But at the time, they were out of our range and now we'd like something a little different. Nice boat though!

Fireman431 Senior Member

I have a 2001 Carver 374 Voyager. I am the second owner and picked it up after realizing what a decent boat they really are. I have done a lot of research on the Carvers, Silvertons, Meridian (Bayliner), Maxums, etc. The older Carvers, generally older than the early 90's, weren't constructed as well. They had foam and coring below the waterline and lots of wood in their stringers. As the manufacturing process progressed, they had to come into compliance with stricter guidelines for the NMMA certifications. My vessel has no coring (fiberglass only) below the waterline. TONS of sealent between fittings and with all fasteners, very nice fit & finish to all fiberglass parts--no giant gaps to fill in with caulking. The interiors are some the best in their mid-range cruiser class. Just make sure that the boat has been preperly cared for and all maintenance completed as scheduled. Good luck on whatever purchase you make.

geriksen Senior Member

We work on a lot of them here. Quality is between Silverton and Sea Ray. The biggest problem we see is that they had layup issues that lead to massive blisters. Big, deep ones. I have seen some that almost go all the way though the hull on Carvers.. The Santego's are actually great boats but don't sell very well. The old 4207 was a great boat with 3208 cats. Some of the other models are just plain goofy. We call the Mariner "the orthopedic shoe" After 2001 they all sort of look like plastic bubbles like Meridian, Silverton, etc.

CaptTom said: My family and I had a 1987 34 Silverton Convertible for 17 years. Based in Long Island, NY, we cruised all over the south shore, around Manhattan, tons of offshore ocean fishing, even up the Hudson to Albany. Nice, solid hull, all glass at least below the waterline. Drilled a hole in the bottom for a transducer and the plug had no wood or coring. Had it in 6+ footers a few times. It's not always the build of the boat that makes an experience good or bad but the experience and knowledge behind the wheel. Anyway, sleeps 4 comfy, 6 is possible, you'll have more options with kids (i.e. took the dinette table down and had my infant son sleep on the dinette floor on blankets, worked well. 40-fotters around the late 1980's had same type of layout but much more room, which may suite you. Click to expand...

carver boats Thanks everyone for your help. I hope a good surveyer can locate the concerns that may arise in the boat we choose.

Regarding your surveyor: 1) They hate it, but watch everything the surveyor does. I had the survey done on my boat and they provided everything including compression tests on the engine. They indicated each cylinder pressure, took oil samples for the engines and genset, pulled the boat and checked the hull, out drives, shafts, seals, etc. However, I discovered that they forged the cylinder pressures because there was a broken plug that they missed plus one that was seized in the cylinder head. That was because the big fat surveyor couldn't get his bug butt on the outboard side of the engines. 2) Get a reputable company. There are fly-by-night compaines that won't certify their results. Get someone that's beenin business for a while. 3) By sticking with the surveyor and asking questions, you're likely to learn somehing about the vessel and what to look for on your own. I learned a lot about what to look for on the hull and shafts when I pull the boat for zincs and visable inspection.

geriksen said: We work on a lot of them here. Quality is between Silverton and Sea Ray. The biggest problem we see is that they had layup issues that lead to massive blisters. Big, deep ones. I have seen some that almost go all the way though the hull on Carvers. Click to expand...

NYCAP123 Senior Member

Fireman431 said: Regarding your surveyor: 1) They hate it, but watch everything the surveyor does. I had the survey done on my boat and they provided everything including compression tests on the engine. They indicated each cylinder pressure, took oil samples for the engines and genset, pulled the boat and checked the hull, out drives, shafts, seals, etc. However, I discovered that they forged the cylinder pressures because there was a broken plug that they missed plus one that was seized in the cylinder head. That was because the big fat surveyor couldn't get his bug butt on the outboard side of the engines. 2) Get a reputable company. There are fly-by-night compaines that won't certify their results. Get someone that's beenin business for a while. 3) By sticking with the surveyor and asking questions, you're likely to learn somehing about the vessel and what to look for on your own. I learned a lot about what to look for on the hull and shafts when I pull the boat for zincs and visable inspection. Click to expand...

joe miglio New Member

mbgator said: ↑ Older Carver's Last summer we purchased a '85 Carver Riviera. 28' with twin crusaders. Very well maintained. We are the 3rd owner, first had it for 17 years and loved the boat dearly. The 2nd owner just kept it at the marina and didn't use it. After a thorough survey, weeks of cleaning - we are very proud of her. Solid boat for a 28 footer. Click to expand...

Capt J Senior Member

wscott52 said: ↑ I don't know specifics, someone here will, but the Carvers I've been on didn't seem very well built. I think Sea Ray is generally a better built boat. I did have a marine surveyor once, after ragging on Carvers, tell me Silvertons were surprisingly well built boats. Click to expand...

Joe Thanks for reaching-out. We loved our Riveria and occasionally discuss how much we enjoyed the boat. When first purchased, the survey returned a single page of recommended items, all cleared-up within a weekend. Very little was noted, and nothing structural. Very solid boat, easy to handle and a breeze to dock. While not as fast as a 30 Sundancer, she was easily as stable and had twice as much 'livable' room aboard. Fuel consumption is relative, but I ran her at 17 - 18 knots and averaged about 20 gph at that speed on Lake Michigan. I could keep her on plane at as little as 15 knots before she fell-off. One downside to note - she's not a 'dry boat', the bow doesn't have enough flare to keep all the spray off the windshield, but that wasn't a problem. Does the boat you are looking-at have A/C, is it gas or diesel, genset installed? Keep us posted.

Cindy F New Member

We are also looking at a 1986 Riviera and would appreciate any comments about the boat. It has been completely restored inside with all new cushions etc. It seems to have been very well maintained. I 've read a lot of negative reviews about Carver boats, especially the older ones. We don't plan on any long trips, just want to explore the SW Florida coastline. I'm wondering if it may be a good little boat for us, as its very roomy below. The price is $30,000, so for the money, we can't expect too much. The engine has been refurbished and has 700 hours. Any thoughts on this boat?

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• Thread starter walleyehed
• Start date Nov 19, 2005

Seaman Apprentice

• Feb 22, 2007

Re: Carver owners.... Refitting,ground up,a 1980 Montego for use on Lake Erie pictured in the rebuilding forum.Can't wait to feel her!!!That Georgian Bay trip is on our have to do list also,hopefully this season round trip from the Erie Island area.Looks like a beautiful area to live you lucky dog!!!  

• Feb 27, 2007

Re: Carver owners.... Also new to the forum. Nice to have a place dedicated to go to. I bought a 1988 27' Carver Montego last January. Spent most of the summer getting it into condition to use in the Pensacola Sound and Bay. Still have a lot to do. Like replacing all the rails and the Starboard cockpit window (any Idea where to find one?). Fixing some minor fiberglass scrapes and minor electrical. Love the boat. TB  

• Mar 26, 2007

Re: Carver owners.... New here and just wanted to say hi! Just bought a '99 356 Aft Cabin. She'll be moored in New Buffalo, MI. Can't wait 'til she gets wet!  

• May 2, 2007

Re: Carver owners.... For RMMPE: I've got an '82 3607 aft cabin with Crusader 454s. Hull speed works out as 7.6 kts and, since this is mostly a displacement hull, top speed is about 18 kts at 4,000 rpm. No speed demon, the old tub, but it handles like it was 20' shorter and takes seas like it was 50' longer. The nice thing is that I can get hull speed at 1,800 rpm. Any idea of the gph consumption at that rpm?? Best, Old Gringo PS: See it at http://OldGringo.us  

• May 11, 2007

Re: Carver owners.... I just bought a 2003 36 Sport Sedan thats the good news. I live in Ca and it will make the trip from Tampa to PT Everglades this week to catch Yacht Paths to Ensenada for a June 3rd delivery. The boat will be added to Marina Sailings rental program. I have been renting boats from them for years and they do a great job of monitoring the rentals. It is the only such program in Los Angeles area. www.marinasailing.com is your interested. I can hardly wait for it to arrive. It will be the second Carver that I have owned. DBAY  

• Jul 6, 2007
• Jul 15, 2007

Re: Carver owners.... Hello there I am new to this forum as well. I have a 3207 85 aft cabin runs great love the view from the flybridge. I have been looking for answers for a breaker tripping issue I have when there is a power failure in the marina and when power is restored the breaker trips. Other carver owners in the marina have this same problem are we alone?  

• Aug 27, 2007
• Sep 12, 2007

Re: Carver owners.... 1980 CARVER SANTA CRUZ 266 Just repowered with new 351W Barr Marine Had to change final drive to left hand. New engine was right hand. Any other Santa Cruz mates out there?  

• Sep 17, 2007

OldGringo said: For RMMPE: I've got an '82 3607 aft cabin with Crusader 454s. Hull speed works out as 7.6 kts and, since this is mostly a displacement hull, top speed is about 18 kts at 4,000 rpm. No speed demon, the old tub, but it handles like it was 20' shorter and takes seas like it was 50' longer. The nice thing is that I can get hull speed at 1,800 rpm. Any idea of the gph consumption at that rpm?? Best, Old Gringo PS: See it at http://OldGringo.us Click to expand...

• Oct 25, 2007

Re: Carver owners.... I'm new also, just registered. I have a 1984 26' Santa Cruz and am having trouble locating an owner's manual if anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear from you. Thanks, I appreciate it.  

whiskeybent

• Dec 22, 2007

• Mar 1, 2008

Re: Carver owners.... New to this forum. We cruise the Gulf Islands off Vancouver Island in a 28' 1978 Carver Santa Cruz. Love the boat. Lots to learn.  

• Jul 24, 2008

enginegremlins said: Hello,<br /><br />We've got a 1986 26' Carver Santa Cruz.....<br /><br />Been lurking around the forums for a while and thought I would chime in and say Hello!!! Click to expand...

• Jul 30, 2008

Re: Carver owners.... Hey Gringo! I have a 1985 3607MY. Essentially, it's the same boat with the same engines. You may consider changing your props. I get 30mph @ 4000 RPM, and 7.5 MPH @ 1100 RPM. Either that, or your engines need some tuneing.  

• Aug 21, 2008

Re: Carver owners.... Hi everybody. New to the forums here. 1985 2807 aft-cabin. Our boating area is up-state NY, NYS Canal system, Hudson River & Lake Champlain.  

Chief Petty Officer

• Sep 9, 2008

Re: Carver owners.... 1985 carver montegio mcrc 5.7 260 . would like to kno what size prop you are running on the same boat thanks .  

• Sep 30, 2008

Re: Carver owners.... Hi, just joined, newcarver here, is this group still active?  

• Oct 16, 2008

Re: Looking for any Carver 564 Owners who... Re: Looking for any Carver 564 Owners who... can give me the likes and dislikes about this model. I'm close to purchasing a 2002 Carver 564 with very low hours on 535HP Cummings QSM-11's original power plants. The vessel has just been sitting for 4 years in a slip with minor maintinance. I could really use some feed back on this before I shell out the cash. thanks.